geico, see how much you could save. >>> let's get more reaction to the numbers, joining us two former chairmen of the white house council of economic advisers, ed lazear advised president george w. bush and austan goolsbee, former adviser to president barack obama. you know, our friend liesman, austan, he said if they could fix these numbers, if they could somehow fix them, then why didn't they fix the debate performance? that didn't make sense to me. i think i figured it out. you could relax at the debate if you knew you were doing 7.8, all right? you could kind of mail it in, like hey, no big deal. i'm getting a 7.8 on friday. >> look, first of all, i've been saying for months, you've made me be mr. pessimistic on the jobs panel month after month and i told you finally the seasonal adjustment would kick in, in our favor, starting in september and then you didn't have me on! i would have predicted this. you got to at least -- >> i didn't know i could make you do things. that's cool, what do i want to you do. >> no, you made me do nothing. you kicked me off of there. >> where were you